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Charming Tuna
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Let's talk about capitalism, are you in favor of it and in which way? Against? What do you think would be better and why?

I like the basic idea that you can be successful and it's because of what you did and managed to generate, but sometimes the game is not fair. Some people seem successful when they were just born rich, but don't get it wrong, they are not successful, they haven't done anything to be successful.

What's your stand?
Charming Tuna
In a capitalist system if you're an employee, you have a glass roof on your success; you can get a really high salary, but you'd still be making money for someone else. I get that though, because you're not the one taking the risk, and even though you might be really productive and hard working, that's not enough in the free market.

To be successful as an entrepreneur working hard is not enough, your project might never get lifted up and you still made a lot of effort. You gotta also be really lucky or just 9000IQ market expert that you really know what's gonna sell and how. And it's not really that obvious that you think it is before you actually go and try. Not even Warren Buffett can predict what's gonna work and not, he's taking a risk too.
Fragile Gecko
Charming Tuna
In a capitalist system if you're an employee, you have a glass roof on your success; you can get a really high salary, but you'd still be making money for someone else. I get that though, because you're not the one taking the risk, and even though you might be really productive and hard working, that's not enough in the free market. To be successful as an entrepreneur working hard is not enough, your project might never get lifted up and you still made a lot of effort. You gotta also be really lucky or just 9000IQ market expert that you really know what's gonna sell and how. And it's not really that obvious that you think it is before you actually go and try. Not even Warren Buffett can predict what's gonna work and not, he's taking a risk too.
>you'd still be making money for someone else

commies don't get it most of the work doesn't produce anything, you literally get paid for not doing anything productive
Charming Tuna
Fragile Gecko
>you'd still be making money for someone else commies don't get it most of the work doesn't produce anything, you literally get paid for not doing anything productive
Well, if it would be as easy to be an entrepreneur as an employee, the commies would already shut up and just do it. That's where I think the argument really fails that somehow the employees deserve as much money as the people taking the risk.
Nice Axolotl
Charming Tuna
Well, if it would be as easy to be an entrepreneur as an employee, the commies would already shut up and just do it. That's where I think the argument really fails that somehow the employees deserve as much money as the people taking the risk.
there is no other system where you somehow get more money all of a sudden than the EXPECTED value of your work.

pay is indeed paid according to expectation of the value, workers are kind of a bitcoin pool and so are employers (just level above)

the only thing that matters in our system is that people are doing stuff, that's why it's not very immoral to do your own projects with subsidies in my opinion, and that's why I'm currently in favour of basic income
Funny Bat
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No
Adventurous Chameleon
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Wide Mongrel
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I don't like commodities

Epitto 0.4.4 Beta

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